Not in the cynical sense that I take your statement to be; on the other hand, each of us carries around a constructed identity (as a social construct) which is removed from what one might term our authentic being, or ‘face’.
oH I did not mean it in that sense.But how soon a person changes
himself. one day he is something, but the next day he is wearing a
completely different face. like a chameleon he is changing his color/stand.
I meant it in the negative way. The untrustworthy nature of humans
Isn’t trust a necessarily contextual thing, though? There are people I trust not to swipe my jacket when I’m at the bar, but I wouldn’t trust them to mind my house during a vacation. It’s not that the person is any better or worse, or that my trust is changing any, it’s just that in different lights the same figure looks different.
Well, everything is contextual Joseph; can you name something that is not? My point of contention is in part that there are some decent, honourable people in the world; in fact, in my experience (and context) there are a great many. To state, as the author appears to have done, that all of humankind is either hypocritical or untrustworthy, is simply not the case. We need to make a distinction between precisely what the author means by their contrarian claim, and our ontological condition as human animals, which necessarily gives rise to each individual creating a narrative construct which is in some sense a put up job, a sham, yet one that for evolutionary purposes has proved necessary. One need not be cynical about this unfortunate state of affairs, for to do so is akin also to being cynical about the fact that it rains, or that apples rot over time. Even those with a strong moral code, and who are trustworthy in all contexts, still are subject to a created sense of selfhood with which they navigate their social terrain; and yet this projective exterior, whilst we might call it a ‘second face’, does not by its presence connote something disreputable.
One can take this thing in a negative or positive way. When I wrote this, I was thinking about two faced people, who betray and lie.
Don’t you think every person in this universe lives two or many personalities/faces. They are different with family, friends, lovers, strangers, kids etc. One who is kind to rich can be horrendous to poor or kind to family and vicious for strangers.
All in all, this line just came to my mind when I was thinking about some people who are too kind and generous for the world but cruel towards the people close to them. Two-faced! Totally contrasting personalities.
Haha, slap the mask then kiss the one who wears it , oh by the way don’t brush your teeth when you do the kiss, that’s worse than slapping because he, oops, they rightfully deserve it 🙂
not a bad idea, the only downside is they might enjoy your kiss with that onion garlic spicy kisses, just wear your mask so it won’t hurt that much when they slap you, what comes around goes around anyway. Have a wonderful saturday, got to read poetry and chocolate and books, well not in that order. Take care,
Ouch! Do you really think so?
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I believe there are even more than 14 billion.
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Well, they say “speak as you find” . . .
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Dont you believe it to be true?
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Not in the cynical sense that I take your statement to be; on the other hand, each of us carries around a constructed identity (as a social construct) which is removed from what one might term our authentic being, or ‘face’.
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oH I did not mean it in that sense.But how soon a person changes
himself. one day he is something, but the next day he is wearing a
completely different face. like a chameleon he is changing his color/stand.
I meant it in the negative way. The untrustworthy nature of humans
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So, you are saying that every human is ‘untrustworthy’, yet that to hold such a view is not cynical?
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Isn’t trust a necessarily contextual thing, though? There are people I trust not to swipe my jacket when I’m at the bar, but I wouldn’t trust them to mind my house during a vacation. It’s not that the person is any better or worse, or that my trust is changing any, it’s just that in different lights the same figure looks different.
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Well, everything is contextual Joseph; can you name something that is not? My point of contention is in part that there are some decent, honourable people in the world; in fact, in my experience (and context) there are a great many. To state, as the author appears to have done, that all of humankind is either hypocritical or untrustworthy, is simply not the case. We need to make a distinction between precisely what the author means by their contrarian claim, and our ontological condition as human animals, which necessarily gives rise to each individual creating a narrative construct which is in some sense a put up job, a sham, yet one that for evolutionary purposes has proved necessary. One need not be cynical about this unfortunate state of affairs, for to do so is akin also to being cynical about the fact that it rains, or that apples rot over time. Even those with a strong moral code, and who are trustworthy in all contexts, still are subject to a created sense of selfhood with which they navigate their social terrain; and yet this projective exterior, whilst we might call it a ‘second face’, does not by its presence connote something disreputable.
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One can take this thing in a negative or positive way. When I wrote this, I was thinking about two faced people, who betray and lie.
Don’t you think every person in this universe lives two or many personalities/faces. They are different with family, friends, lovers, strangers, kids etc. One who is kind to rich can be horrendous to poor or kind to family and vicious for strangers.
All in all, this line just came to my mind when I was thinking about some people who are too kind and generous for the world but cruel towards the people close to them. Two-faced! Totally contrasting personalities.
That is all. 🙂
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Cynical or what I don’t know. Just wrote it what I had seen n experienced. 🙂
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Reblogged this on Human Interest.
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Thank you for reblogging 🙂
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You’re welcome!
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very well said …
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Hahaha! Love it.
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hahah literallyy!!
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😉
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Too true
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In some sense, that is true.
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So true….very nice
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Thank you. 🙂
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Ha, two funny! (yes, it was intentional)
https://jotraveller.wordpress.com/2015/05/29/my-place-in-time/
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So true, sometimes it’s not the people who change, it’s the mask that falls of. 🙂
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i mean falls off. there you go another mask…:-)
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Absolutely correct. 🙂 And you can’t decide which face to slap first. 😉
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Haha, slap the mask then kiss the one who wears it , oh by the way don’t brush your teeth when you do the kiss, that’s worse than slapping because he, oops, they rightfully deserve it 🙂
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😂😂😂😂😂😂 Gosh! I will keep that in mind. No brushing of teeth. 😂😂😂😂😂 You suggest me to eat garlic n onion before doing that too? :p
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not a bad idea, the only downside is they might enjoy your kiss with that onion garlic spicy kisses, just wear your mask so it won’t hurt that much when they slap you, what comes around goes around anyway. Have a wonderful saturday, got to read poetry and chocolate and books, well not in that order. Take care,
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I will keep that in mind. 😉
Thank you for your kind words. Have a great weekend. 🙂
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No i know you know i’m not serious, but you can still keep that … Have a wonderful weekend.
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oh I know how to take a good joke 😉
Dont worry about it 😉
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20% of which is in India 😉
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Kingdom of hypocrisy. Could not agree more. 🙂
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It’s true, people are complex, and I feel we all have our good and bad. I can only say, I hope that number is inflated.
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I hope that too. But then again, it’s human nature. We can’t do anything about it. 😦
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Yeah, your quite right about that.
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🙂
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Thanks for liking my poem. It means a lot coming from you. Namaste.
https://jotraveller.wordpress.com/2015/06/08/coming-up-from-within/
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🙂 I like reading them 🙂
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Hey I have nominated you for quote challenge , check it here
https://negativethinkerr.wordpress.com/2015/06/11/if-you-are-a-quote-lover-day-2/
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Thank you so much for the nomination. I will check it out asap. 🙂
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I just took your challenge 🙂 https://poetryandchocolateandbooks.wordpress.com/2015/06/11/if-you-are-a-quote-lover-day-1/
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Aha, I did’t get it first – I first thought you mixed faces with eyes. But now I understand. I don’t think everyone is two faced.
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Ah! We had a long discussion about this. 😀 If you dont think so then you are lucky to have found such people in your life 🙂
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